tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post4056610443520881214..comments2023-05-19T01:53:15.881+10:00Comments on gathering dust: The elusive John GreenSharonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11885602384351678582noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post-53159271316817887342013-11-02T08:22:26.434+11:002013-11-02T08:22:26.434+11:00Yes they married 1835 at Sutton Forest, image at a...Yes they married 1835 at Sutton Forest, image at ancestry. Her ship is given as the Enchantress and she was 18. Sutton Forest not far from Goulburnn. Now a notable highway stop ;)Anne Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17970750528434435027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post-12807368177751519832013-11-02T08:02:50.513+11:002013-11-02T08:02:50.513+11:00It is fabulous. Everyone is so knowledgeable and h...It is fabulous. Everyone is so knowledgeable and helpful!Sharonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885602384351678582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post-45249325548307325942013-11-02T08:02:25.384+11:002013-11-02T08:02:25.384+11:00I've been thinking about that too and trying t...I've been thinking about that too and trying to narrow down that way. I am 99% sure I just found a marriage for daughter Ann to Benjamin Taylor in the convict permissions to marry. Her certificates are going on m y list too.Sharonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885602384351678582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post-58885113789822643912013-11-02T08:00:17.412+11:002013-11-02T08:00:17.412+11:00There is also a Mary Green who died in 1853 at ag...There is also a Mary Green who died in 1853 at age 70. When I fill up my genealogy change jar again ;)<br /><br />I am almost 100% sure that John is buried under a tree on "Rosevale" although I have misplaced the list of marked graves. Time to chase up the Windellama historical society again.Sharonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885602384351678582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post-8520221332387484172013-11-01T21:45:05.954+11:002013-11-01T21:45:05.954+11:00Hi Sharon, caught you on the hangout. Anne's s...Hi Sharon, caught you on the hangout. Anne's suggestions are excellent. Isn't it great to get other ideas from people! <br />BTW, I'm chasing Greens as well but they come from Wiltshire so can't help you.Boobookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01395043246338753023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post-13694899340072268072013-11-01T19:49:43.682+11:002013-11-01T19:49:43.682+11:00I have come across at least one instance in my own...I have come across at least one instance in my own family tree where the wife and children followed a convict on a separate ship. This may be the case for John and Mary. In my case they were travelling in the same year but it could be that there was a greater distance apart. The Enchantress arrived 1833 and Thomas was 8, born about 1825. You could be looking for John being convicted any time between 1824 and 1833 if this is indeed the explanation.<br />If we eliminate Van Diemans Land and assume he was transported to NSW since that is where his wife and children followed him (and Louisa seems to have met up with him). We have John Green convicted 1829 in London for 14 years and transported on the Adrian in 1830. Another john Green was convicted at Bucklinghamshire and transported on The Camden in 1832. There are a couple more men named John Green for 1832 on other ships. There are other possibilities too. None convicted Bedford that I could see with a quick search, but both Buckingham and London are relatively close.Anne Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17970750528434435027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post-30559091936449543542013-11-01T18:36:29.754+11:002013-11-01T18:36:29.754+11:00I would start with Goulburn and there are three po...I would start with Goulburn and there are three possible Mary Greens on NSW BDM registered in that district with deaths up to 1900<br />5547/1879 GREEN MARY THOMAS BRIDGET GOULBURN <br />6714/1886 GREEN MARY A WILLIAM MARTHA GOULBURN <br />13169/1899 GREEN MARY JAMES CATHERINE GOULBURN<br /><br />Of these I think the 1899 death unlikely given the age of Mary's children. Given Mary apparently had a child Thomas you could try the 1879 certificate. I understand though that guessing on certificates is an expensive business.<br /><br />No apparent newspaper items on Trove to help.<br /><br />I had a look at Goulburn cemetery transcript in the hope they were buried together. No luck at http://www.australiancemeteries.com/nsw/goulburn/goulburngnold.htm not least because he is buried at yarralaw not Old Goulburn. However you could try HAGSOC (http://hagsoc.org.au) which has more transcripts of the area. I think it would be worth finding a reference to John's burial plot and seeing if his wife buried with him and thus narrow down her death date.<br />Anne Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17970750528434435027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post-12153704238434024902013-11-01T17:15:45.290+11:002013-11-01T17:15:45.290+11:00Mary Green is even more problematic than John, her...Mary Green is even more problematic than John, her death didn't make it into the family bible so I have no starting point and hundreds of possibilitiesSharonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885602384351678582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post-12445108502990369852013-10-31T21:56:15.812+11:002013-10-31T21:56:15.812+11:00St Saviours is Anglican. The parish registers are ...St Saviours is Anglican. The parish registers are available on microform http://trove.nla.gov.au/version/185469611 Anne Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17970750528434435027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post-15077060630388124432013-10-31T21:48:25.374+11:002013-10-31T21:48:25.374+11:00Hi Sharon do you have Louisa's mother's de...Hi Sharon do you have Louisa's mother's death certificate, that is the death certificate details for Mary Green? That might be more complete than John's and tell you something about John and Mary's marriage and their children which might help to pinpoint the family. Regards AnneAnne Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17970750528434435027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312971144503086104.post-27918249267380049522013-10-31T14:55:16.752+11:002013-10-31T14:55:16.752+11:00Hey Sharon,
Some thoughts
What denomination is S...Hey Sharon,<br /><br />Some thoughts<br /><br />What denomination is St Saviours in Goulbourn?<br />Have you contacted the church directly to see if they have the original registers?<br />If they don't who has them? Deposited with state records? Often what is exacted into indexes and gov't files isn't everything recorded in the register (which often have little comments added by the clergy).<br />If married in St Saviours cause it was the C of E but they were members of another denomination esp non-conformist or Catholic? If they were, were they active? Might be worth checking church newsletters, bulletins, minutes etc for a mention. They can contain a whole other world of information as they were often the most important social hubs in small towns and often were small groups of related individuals. <br />Might be mentioned in birth/marriage/death notices of relations or family friends (especially weddings).<br /><br />Hope this helps.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />Michelle<br />Larenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12885582206860385433noreply@blogger.com